Strip 631 - "Eh... his special trick's probably not all that great anyway"

21st Apr 2018, 12:00 AM in Cave of No Return
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DragonTrainer 23rd Apr 2018, 10:24 PM edit delete
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Sorry to do this again, but next update will be on Thursday instead of Tuesday.

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Malroth 21st Apr 2018, 2:50 AM edit delete reply
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This is why Martial master isn't that good of a thing. He's loosing out on 4 damage per hit for the ability to borrow some feats a few times per day. While it is flexible he's already 4 feats up over a standard combat build of his level, if he had chosen them well then he probably wouldn't need to retrain on the fly.
Tinskin 23rd Apr 2018, 12:33 AM edit delete reply


As someone who played a brawler/fighter to terrifying effectiveness I strongly disagree that Martial Master isn't that good of a thing. The ability to adapt and specialize to a massive variety of situations was incredible. the character was a grapple specialist, but I could do ANY combat maneuver well. situational feats like blindfight, deflect arrows, lunge, disruptive, spellbreaker, step up, weapon proficiency whip/net... I've used them all, customizing my character into whatever fits the situation.
Malroth 21st Apr 2018, 3:15 AM edit delete reply
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Random Math time

Phaedrus 18 str mundane spear power attacking for 2 no additonal feats
1.5 multipliers are for using a 2 handed weapon
1d8+ 6 (4 str x 1/5) + 6 (4 power attack damage x 1.5)
so thats a minimum damage roll of 13 minus 5 for DR which should still leave him dealing 8 damage even with the worst possible feat choices.
Halosty45 21st Apr 2018, 11:33 AM edit delete reply
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I mean, he's only down 1 damage at this level, but I agree most times weapon training will be better.
In fact, unless you want to super specialize, and thus die more easily or do kinda bad damage, pure fighter is one of the best options. Feats every level = great... bravery which most archetypes replace is a solid bonus that is very useful when it comes up, and as a human if Phaedrus gets to 16th level as a fighter he can apply all of his weapon-specific feats to a whole weapon group, along with weapon training, giving him versatility (which could matter if he wants to use javelins for ranged combat or a lance for charges).
The42ndGecko 23rd Apr 2018, 11:40 PM edit delete reply


I would have disagreed with you until the Weapon Master's Handbook and Armor Master's Handbooks came out. The eventual ability to put your bravery bonus towards all sorts of will saves, or enchant your sword equal to your weapon training, makes mid-high level straight fighters REALLY good.

But, before then, there were a lot of Archetypes that had straight upgrades to bravery or otherwise gave you really neat side abilities while keeping your weapon training the same for your primary weapon.
Snowtwo 23rd Apr 2018, 2:19 AM edit delete reply


It looks like the goat... Bought the farm!

Yea... Pretty bad.
Zilfallion 24th Apr 2018, 1:26 AM edit delete reply
Zilfallion
It's fine Dragon. Take your time to figure things out. We understand.
Snowtwo 24th Apr 2018, 8:13 PM edit delete reply


Since we're stuck here for a bit, I'm curious. How many people like Lia? I, personally, really like her but I admit bias towards blondes.
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