Strip 136 - Alignment Tutorial - Part 2 (Lawful Good)

17th Feb 2015, 12:00 AM in Corvus Village
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Raxon 17th Feb 2015, 1:39 AM edit delete reply
I seem to recall playing a pot smoking, easygoing LG paladin once. He never actually read the local laws, so he decided on punishments such as smoking some pot with him while he explained why killing that guy would have been wrong.

Basically, recreational drug use, combined with gentle lectures and offering certain criminals(those who steal due to poverty and desperation) a way out of that life. Join his order. Become a monk, or a paladin, or a cleric. Or even a simple farmer.
DtDoom 17th Feb 2015, 2:09 AM edit delete reply

"Lswful good"
Typically, the "Good" portion of the alignment overrides the lawful portion.

Refusing to steal the key even though you need it to save the princess? Not likely at all. Maybe a Lawful Neutral would act this way, but Lawful Good is meant to be the traditional hero type. He's usually honest, but that doesn't mean he can't lie if it serves his cause. It also doesn't mean he can't kill people. It means he's unlikely to do so without a good reason though.

Even a Paladin, the most Lawful Good of all Lawful Good characters can get along perfectly well with most adventuring parties. My first paladin didn't get along with the rogue, but it wasn't because he was a rogue and stole stuff, it was because he was a complete jerk. And even though they didn't like each other, they worked together for the good of the group, and the kingdom that hired them. Or at least, that's why my paladin worked with him.
Malroth 17th Feb 2015, 2:30 AM edit delete reply
for me this has typicaly been the alignment of the most disruptive players, the ones who think that they can murder and steal whatever they want without consequence because they are the "hero" or the "chosen one" or that "god told me to" typicaly "lawful good" will slit the throats of fellow party members who don't follow their orders blindly. They wonder why I insist on changing their character sheet to CE but this is Texas thus my neighbors are not well known for their intellectual prowess.
DtDoom 18th Feb 2015, 1:57 PM edit delete reply

"That is not even close to lawful good behavior."
You can justify murder as a lawful good person... but not for trivial things. Definitely not of your own allies.

Such a character who acted the way you described would be Chaotic Neutral at best.

Book O Dragons 20th Feb 2015, 4:37 AM edit delete reply

you are describing the CN warlock (adventurer's league prevented NE or CE) who tried to kill my monk for messing up a plan to break a kobold's neck.
Yuko Hoon 17th Feb 2015, 10:48 AM edit delete reply
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In my group, there seems to be a challenge to play a "paladin the way he/she should be played". Right now, there are three versions, with only one active.

First is my human paladin, who deals with thieves depending on the reason behind their actions (if they do it out of necessity, she finds them jobs or education with her order) and spent the entire game fighting (and killing) assassins while giving the sorcerer dope slaps for being an uncorregible flirt at the worst possible time.

Second is the legendary dhampir paladin. Nothing much to say, since the game was basically "find what's attacking the trade caravans and deal with it". He dealed with it, he really did @_@

And third is the aasimar paladin that a friend is playing in our Pathfinder chronicle. He is a nice, law-abbiding guy who is the only one who joined the party after a sense of duty, who always asks to be treated the last, and that has a tendency to guilt-trip the drow rogue into doing nice things. And it works.
DamonIsa 19th Feb 2015, 3:49 AM edit delete reply

One of the things I think a lot of people forget about as well is the "I'm the Goddamned Avatar!" version of events.

Random Kid: Hey Mister! Hey Mister! Give me some money!
The Goddamned Avatar: What do you want? Get lost you sawed off little twerp.
Random Kid: You have to do what I say because I'm a little kid and if you don't, I'm gonna scream and cry!
The Goddamned Avatar: You're a little brat and 'm not going to give you any money.
Random Kid: Hey! You can't talk to me like that because I"m a little kid! You're mean and I'm going to tell everyone! Meanie!
The Goddamned Avatar: I'm the Goddamned Avatar okay, not fucking Santa Claus. I got serious save the world--

But quote aside there is a point to it, just because you're Lawful Good doesn't mean you have to do everything everyone tells you and get distracted by everything. I could easily see Paladin stay perfectly in Alignment telling people "... yeah... I don't give a shit about your petty crimes, I'm off to do actually important stuff, you know, smite some demons, slay the Red Dragon that's burning down your lands..."

Though Bad DMs will try to punish you for that.
DtDoom 19th Feb 2015, 10:30 PM edit delete reply

But what exactly IS the codex of ultimate Wisdom?
David Argall 19th Feb 2015, 5:03 AM edit delete reply

"LG is not Good Good"
Wile there has been confusion on the point for a long time, LG is a corruption of Good, not the ideal of Good. This should be obvious from the name, and the existence of Neutral Good.
While LG is on the side of Good, it is also helping Law, which means its devotion to Good can not be complete. It is only partly Good, just like CG.
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