Strip 052 - "This probably should have been the very first tutorial..."

31st Jul 2014, 12:00 AM in Forest of Doom
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Raxon 31st Jul 2014, 12:06 AM edit delete reply
Ah, tutorials. You just know that poor orc is gonna get his butt whooped for the sake of demonstration.
Orion Fury 31st Jul 2014, 12:11 PM edit delete reply

Here's hoping the Orc doesn't know about timed hits...
Malroth 31st Jul 2014, 12:38 AM edit delete reply

Or winds up "befriended" Nanoha Style
Raxon 31st Jul 2014, 1:04 AM edit delete reply
Nanoha? Isn't that the girl whose catch phrase could be "I'm taking you home with me!"

Or am I thinking of the wrong anime? You know, that girl whose primary character flaw is that she abducts anything cute, whether it's a stray cat, or a little girl.
Alverman 31st Jul 2014, 3:22 AM edit delete reply

That would be Rena, from Higurashi. Nanoha is a magical girl whose befriending style comprehends lots and lots of wave motion guns and homungous lasers.
Malroth 31st Jul 2014, 5:00 AM edit delete reply

basicaly anyone who you've left with 100 broken bones at the bottom of a 2 mile deep crater is now your friend and if they still don't agree make it a 4 mile deep crater
Disloyal Subject 18th Nov 2014, 5:38 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
"We All Knew What You Meant, but This is What I Do"
Comprised of, not comprehends. Comprehension is understanding, whereas you mean to say that Nanoha's befriending style is made up of magitek artillery. Gloriously over-the-top artillery...
guy 4th Aug 2014, 11:40 PM edit delete reply

Could also be the ice skater lady - forgot name - from Ranma 1/2. She had a habit of stealing/kidnapping anything that appealed to her, giving it a random name and taking it home, be it a fish cake, blanket, or full grown panda bear.
That was such a weird show.
zombi3DS 31st Jul 2014, 6:02 PM edit delete reply
"Is it okay if I ask for story time?"
Please post a story about ability scores and something. Yeah.

My Story is about Juliard the "Greatest Thief Ever". So basically I rolled up a halfling rogue with a Dex of 18 (+2 Racial) and Charisma 16 (Again +2). This and his taking of the cutpurse archetype led to him doing a lot of stealing.

However what really set him apart was my rolling of 9 and 6 for his Intelligence and Wisdom. This led to me playing him as the largest ham. Every time we went somewhere whether it was the mayor's mansion, new towns, the police stations (those were always fun): Juliard would walk in and immediately shout "MY NAME IS JULIARD AMBROSIA AND I AM THE GREATEST THIEF EVER." The thing was that we started at level 3 and I put all my feats/half my traits toward Sleight of hand having at level three a +16 (5+2+5+3+1) (and a rogue talent to get two rolls on SoL) so no one ever caught me until level 8 when the paladin caught me and gave my character a stern talking to about stealing which led to my character stealing peoples money and replacing it with an equal amount he was carrying that he had marked thus proving that "I, JULIARD AMBROSIA AM STILL THE GREATEST THIEF EVER"

This was especially fun as I stole the BBEG's macguffin from him mid-I am going to take over/destroy the world for reasons-speech (I'll tell you the truth I didn't really listen to the speech). It went something like this:

BBEG: With this power source I will....
JA: Hey what is that thing worth?
BBEG: Uh, This is a priceless artifact worth more than anything you have, Now then I will smite all the....Mwah-hah-hah-hah-hah. *Raise hands toward sky* Wait Where did the Almighty Something of That Dead God or Whatnot go?

He then noticed that I was holding his bauble and all my gear was on the ground next to his feet.

BBEG: I will kill you.

He did. But the rest of the team wailed on him until he nearly was dead and then he disintegrated my body and used some wind spell or something to blow it away.
guy 1st Aug 2014, 12:35 AM edit delete reply

My story is about an unfortunate habit I have regarding ability scores.
I come to D&D from a tactics game background: Super Robot Wars, Fire Emblem, and the like.
This means I have a tendency to create optimized, or even broken characters as a result of force of habit.
That's not the problem, however.
One campaign I ran - this was years ago, mind. I was much younger - I actually became seriously annoyed when my own PLAYERS did NOT break their characters.
I just could not wrap my head around playing the game that way. It seemed like tactical suicide, deliberately under powering one's self in such a manner.
Of course, they were thinking about what they wanted to role play, rather then "How to win".
To be completely honest, I am no longer sure that there even IS a "Way to win" in D&D, as it isn't that sort of game.
Even now, I am haunted by this weird obsession with optimized stats; When I looked at the pony stats in Friendship Is Dragons, for instance, the first thing that popped into my head was "Wow, these are TERRIBLE builds."
But if there is anything I have learned in my years at this game, it is this: You should never tell someone else how to play.
One day, I met someone who was a bigger min-maxer then I was, and the experience of simply having my character written off as "too weak" was so poisoning that I almost dropped the game entirely.
Everyone plays the game a different way, and that's one of the best things about it. It keeps it interesting.
Sorry for the long post. I generally try and keep them shorter then this.
Some Random Person... 1st Aug 2014, 2:56 AM edit delete reply

I once had something I suppose could be grouped into a similar experience, although I came from more of an FPS/RTS background. In terms of optimization, I'm probably the person that does the most in my group. I think it's in part because I'm very good at math, and that's all that character optimization is: Mathematics. However, I don't think I ever went as far as you did in your mindset. However I do have to agree very specifically with one thing your story shares. You never really quite see how optimized you're making characters until you play with someone doing full on, what I like to call it anyways, cheese. Then you look at them, see how you must look in comparison to the rest of the group most of the time, and you start to tone it back a little bit... or at least use your power to explore other avenues. These days I like to put my optimization skills to the test by making builds that revolve around an extremely optimal setup able to hold it's own in the group. [My most recent build I haven't actually had much of a chance to use because in the 4 combat encounters it's been through, I've disarmed one opponent, disarmed two encounters without combat, and the fourth is turning into a really rather interesting infiltration... I walked up to the guards of a building, started talking to them when they wouldn't just let me walk past like I belonged. Distracted them with a blank piece of paper to slip inside, and there's now quite the merry chase as my character is racing to find someone inside while the guards decide to try to catch me. Sadly, session had to end in the middle]

Oh wow, I got distracted there... Might as well get to my story about ability scores. Long story short, I'm no longer allowed to roll my own ability scores because my IRL Luck modifier is too high. The last time I was allowed to roll on a straight 3d6 I think I pulled out... 15,18,14,18,16,18 right in front of the DM. That's when they decided I don't get to roll anymore. My D6s are magic. Makes me playing blaster-casters and rogues kind of terrifying for NPCs because I still get to roll my own damage :D
Raxon 2nd Aug 2014, 12:51 AM edit delete reply
Coming from a backgroung of JRPGs and writing, my basic process is to roll to find what race I play. Then I roll on another table for a couple personality traits, and build from there. I have gotten a secretly evil drow, a drider with a button fixation, a half-halfling jungle giant monk, and a guy simply known as "CAPTAIN SOCIOPATH!"

So much fun.
Disloyal Subject 18th Nov 2014, 5:48 PM edit delete reply
Disloyal Subject
I don't recall the drider.

When it comes to ability scores... I dunno why, but I tend to roll really well for 'em with my dusty old Risk dice. ESPECIALLY when I play an Orc. My present Half-Orc Ranger has 16 in every physical stat, plus Wisdom, and 14 Int. And he's below my average! First character I played was a Githyanki gish with INT, CON, and CHA all in the mid 20s, unbuffed, at lv9, and STR and DEX well - 19 STR 16 DEX iirc. And I still could not land a blow with a sword... Granted, a squishier character couldn't have soaked so many sneak attacks and survived to remember "Oh yeah, I'm a spellcaster."
JET73L 18th May 2015, 8:13 PM edit delete reply

I've done that. It takes more effort to make a cohesive character compared to my usual "start with a premise or trait and work my way outward from there" technique, but it has its uses... and not only when I feel creatively sterile and have a session in less than 24 hours.
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