Strip 766

16th Mar 2019, 12:00 AM in Cave of No Return
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fellow 16th Mar 2019, 10:35 AM edit delete reply
fellow
But weapon training and martial flexibility are mutually exclusive, if I understand it correctly?
Halosty45 16th Mar 2019, 12:43 PM edit delete reply
Halosty45
Hence the brawler, which gets martial flexibility.
Also, a good reason to not allow hybrid classes at the same time as their parent classes, but hey... this setting seems to allow whatever BS people can make work with all rules included.

So that means my 15th level build that involves dimensional dervish and large quantities of alcohol would be pretty good in setting.
Arillius 17th Mar 2019, 8:39 AM edit delete reply


Another possibility to get it is Barroom Brawler, the feat, combined with Advanced Weapon training (abundant tactics) and gloves of dueling at lvl 10 means he could effectively use it a few times a day.

Honestly, though, the idea of an Iron Caster who uses sheer brute force to take magic into himself and channel it, relying heavily on premade magic, is so cool that I want to make a proper archetype for it for my own players. Or at the very least make an archetype that allows for it to happen as a pure fighter.
Halosty45 17th Mar 2019, 11:42 AM edit delete reply
Halosty45
If you do make that archetype, consider that the Martial Master gives up weapon training and weapon mastery.
Therefore, to get both weapon training and Martial Flexibility you have to give up something more.
Giving up armor training isn't equivalent- though good, it's slightly weaker. Perhaps giving up armor training and a few bonus feats.
Alternatively, make the martial flexibility in that archetype weaker. Fewer times per day and/or limit the number of feats that can be exchanged at once. If you're going for a pure-fighter iron caster archetype, only getting one feat at a time isn't going to hurt that much anyway.
Kittoradra 17th Mar 2019, 8:55 AM edit delete reply


Actually, Phaedrus hasn't quite locked himself out of the build! There's a feat he can take called Martial Focus. Its effects (+1 to damage rolls for weapons in a selected group) don't matter as much as the special note: It counts as Weapon Training for the purpose of prerequisites.

Also: I'm very much enjoying the comic, and the discussions in the comment section, that I made the ComicFury account just to start adding to the conversations.
Halosty45 17th Mar 2019, 11:48 AM edit delete reply
Halosty45
Oh, neat! A single feat isn't hard for a fighter to get either. That means he can do stuff next level just fine if he wanted to.
Actually, he's better off doing things that way because he doesn't have to spend a level on brawler, and he continues to advance martial flexibility (sometimes a swift or free action feat change will matter a lot, plus more times/day)
Sure, he misses out on actual weapon training, but he was fine with giving that up anyway.
Oh wait if he's 6th level already he can do that *right now* because he can get two feats at once, thus Martial Focus -> Advanced Weapon Training
DragonTrainer 17th Mar 2019, 4:30 PM edit delete reply
DragonTrainer
I thought Martial Focus only counts as Weapon Training for the purposes of gaining Weapon Mastery Feats. Am I missing something?
Kittoradra 17th Mar 2019, 6:56 PM edit delete reply


Darn... You're right. I just re-read it, and it does specify it's for Weapon Mastery Feats. Which still makes it feel like we're missing something, since Martial Flexibility replaces Weapon Training. ... Nobody let me sign that deal with a devil until someone else reads the contract. I'm apparently not to be trusted with those details.
Halosty45 18th Mar 2019, 11:18 AM edit delete reply
Halosty45
I read the feat too and it's so close to working >_>
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