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Strip 459

10th Mar 2017, 11:00 PM in Cave of No Return
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Malroth 10th Mar 2017, 11:36 PM edit delete reply
I wonder how evil overleveled archery clone number 3 is going to explain what just happened.
Inbetweenbooks 11th Mar 2017, 11:39 AM edit delete reply

dragonslayer arrow? with a botched for save? unlikely, but still possible

as for the reason why it's unlikely, it's becouse dragonslayer arrows suck. most dragons clear a dc 20 fort save with ease...
Malroth 11th Mar 2017, 5:37 PM edit delete reply
Well if the Witches second round action had been Misfortune Hex instead of "stand around and look dumb" then the dragon's oods of passing that DC 20 fort save would have been about 20%, still to high to rely on but no longer strange or unusual.
Inbetweenbooks 11th Mar 2017, 7:34 PM edit delete reply

more like 60 % save rate

It's a juvenile red dragon, so it has +14 fort.

With a misfortune that's a 12. so on 8+ it saves, and only takes normal damage...

granted, if he used a greater dragonslaying arrow that puts him down to about 15% of save or die after debuffs is slightly stronger, but vasting 2282 to 4057 gp on a single use arrow that on a save otherwise works as a mere +1 arrow...

and if you go pathfinder, it's has been even heavier nerfed...

Inbetweenbooks 11th Mar 2017, 7:59 PM edit delete reply

although, to be fair, my party used Trap the soul to kill the ancient dragon close to the end in rise of the runelords, so what do i know about cost efficiency

also: divination mages ability to save a dice throw is OP. we didn't kill the last runelord this way, but we thought about it... we did after all have his name...
Malroth 11th Mar 2017, 9:00 PM edit delete reply
Misfortune hex has the target roll all saves twice and take the worse result combined with the -4 from evil eye hex and that puts the chance of 2 consecutive rolls both being 12+ to be 20.25%
Inbetweenbooks 12th Mar 2017, 7:34 AM edit delete reply

my bad, was thinking about evil eye.

although the dragon would have had to have failed the will save for the misfortune to take effect, which isn't that easy. easier than the dragonslayer, but not by much.

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